In the podcast series “Everything in the House,” Janine Vos (CHRO Rabobank) talks with Rabobank colleagues about what they have in place to successfully deviate from the norm. This podcast is posted here on veelbegaafd.nl with her permission. She is in conversation with Roland van der Vorst, Head of Innovation Wholesale & Rural and CEO of Rabo Carbon Bank, and in addition to his work at Rabobank, he is also a professor, scientist, columnist and author. In this episode, Janine has a conversation with Roland about innovation and how important it is in doing so to actively listen to the things you don’t want to hear. Furthermore, the conversation is about reconciling the interests of “the small farmer” with those of “the big tech. Roland also talks about freedom, exploring his mind and why he loves working for Rabobank. He concludes with: “let’s play, let’s create space where it’s not so heavy, the world is heavy enough.

Annemarie van den Thillart talks to Els about talent development, not falling into the system, and how she received guidance in East Germany where they did see and understand her versatility and potential. How important your immediate environment is, your foundation. Dare to show yourself. Only then can the other person help you.

Combining her sports background with autism, bore-out and giftedness, Els explains how to really look at what is there. As her parents used to say about her multiply disabled sister, “she can do a lot, but not everything!